Billy Roper Interview
Today on The Tribalist for our first ever interview we are proud to have Billy Roper with us today. Roper is a veteran of the White Nationalist and Racialist movement, for over 35 years he’s been advocating for the advancement and security of the white Aryan race. He’s been involved with the National Alliance and is currently the leader of the infamous Shield Wall Network a white nationalist survivalist and prepper group operating in the Ozarkia region. Billy has a long history in our movement and we’re excited for him to share his experience and knowledge with our readers so without further ado I’ll present you with the interview:
TT (The Tribalist): “So the first thing I wanted to ask is about your long career in nationalist politics. Can you tell me about the political climate growing up and what ultimately led you to nationalism and racialism?”
Billy: “My father and both of my grandfathers were klansman, so I was raised to be racially conscious, however as a teenager I had to define the Jewish question for myself, so I became a skinhead. As an undergrad in college and then in graduate school I was a member of the National Alliance, leading the Arkansas members and the National Alliance internet response unit for online recruiting in the early days of internet.”
TT: “did you ever get to interact with Pierce in any way?”
Billy: “Yes I had the honor of working with Dr Pierce for the last two and a half years of his life, everyday. My office was right above his on the second story of the National Alliance national office building. We often took our meals together and socialized together along with the rest of the national office staff. He was a great man. What a lot of people don't know is that he had an excellent sense of humor as well.”
TT: “Can you describe the kind of man Pierce was? And are there some misconceptions about his personality that aren’t true?”
Billy: “His detractors may think that he was mean or cold, when nothing could be further from the truth. He was very kind to animals, he had not only a pet dog named Hubert but also a blue point Persian cat named Hadley who was his constant companion. Dr Pierce was slow to anger, very even tempered, but love to joke around and kid. He also was a fan of the 45 caliber Glock, at the time I carried a 10 mm version and he and I got into good spirited debates and shooting contests over the difference. One of his favorite movies was Predator. Another was the cat from outer space.“ (it seems Dr. Pierce was a fan of the Sci-Fi genre)
TT: “So more onto the Shield Wall Network can you tell me how the idea of the organization first took root?”
Billy: “Yes, after 30 years in the white nationalist movement leading and being a part of several organizations and trying every possible tactic in the book, from flying to banner drops to IRL protests and demonstrations etc, I began to realize that multiracial democracy could not fly, that the United States of America was undergoing rapid social and cultural change leading to polarization and radicalization of both fringes of the electorate against the center. This could only lead to one thing, the balkanization of america. That is why I began to look at different areas of the country, such as Harold Covington's Northwest initiative, inspired by Pastor Butler, and Tom kaczynski's efforts in maine, with new Albion, as well as other regional efforts, but I found that none of those regions was better suited for a potential seed bed white ethnostate then ozarkia, centered on North Central arkansas. The 90 contiguous counties here which are over 90% white or higher, and are very deep red conservative right wing and rural, are attracting many white nationalists and other racially conscious whites to move here from other areas of the country because they see it as a region which holds real promise for the future of our people. So I began the shieldwall networks efforts to advertise this region and organize an organization, that could not only help white nationalist move to Ozarkia, but help them to become persons of influence in the community collectively once they get here and by developing our collective strengths and resources, help others move here as well.”
TT: “So a common criticism of the Ozarkia plan (often from Northwest and New England types) is this idea that if a nation surrounded by enemies without any ports won’t survive (kinda like Rhodesia) how would you respond to that?”
Billy: “Number one have they ever heard of Switzerland or Austria? Number two, there is a majority White region connecting ozarkia through East Texas to the deepwater ports of the Gulf Coast, which we would reach ultimately, after we initially regather and regain control of our destiny as a people in one well defined and culturally cohesive homogeneous area, and ethnostate. That would be much better than facing Asia. Based on Seattle and Portland and the whole Pacific Northwest politics, as well as the Chinese drive to become territorial once they no longer can sell their cheap junk to American consumers after the collapse of the United states, anyone in the Pacific Northwest should be learning mandarin.”
TT: “What are some of the tactics and ways of spreading the message of the SWN? And so you have any plans for the group in the future? I know you collaborate with Aryan Freedom Network and participate in their events.”
Billy: “Actually, we voluntarily took down our website on July 4th 2021 and stop doing our own weekly podcast in order to lower our political silhouette and focus on IRL community building rather than entertainment, which seem to be what some of our audience was trending to. During that time of unprecedented growth and organization we solidified our base and from this foundation are building a tribe and an intentional community with an ethnostate in mind, the seed bed already haven't been established. We don't necessarily work with other organizations because no other organization is in our lane, doing exactly what we do. We wish them well doing what they do and are not in competition with them, again because none of them are doing what we are doing. We do use telegram channels and some social media outlets on a limited basis but we are not an entry level organization, we are not trying to Redpill normies. Our plans for the future are to continue to facilitate white nationalist moving to ozarkia, and with them collectively becoming persons of influence in our communities here even more than we already have done. We are also homesteaders and active Preppers, we meet and train regularly in a variety of disciplines. Our goal is to become as self-sufficient as possible both individually and collectively.”
TT: “So what do you think personally will be the cause of American balkanization? Like if America is a powder keg then what do you think will be the spark?
Billy: “Considering how polarized and divided the country is becoming, not just on a person level but between red and blue States, with no room in the middle left for compromise or even civil discourse, it could happen connected to the next presidential election if the results are contested once again and half of the country feels like it was robbed.”
TT: “so you think it’s coming soon?”
Billy: “None of us have a crystal ball and can predict exactly when the balkanization of America can happen, but we can predict that it is inevitable, and waiting for too long to move out of urbanized or coastal areas will be a fatal mistake. That's why we encourage people to move to ozarkia now, rather than wait until the Civil War actually begins, and travel may be impossible.”
TT: “Last question and something I believe is something really important for people in our movement to hear especially young people. What would your advice be to those in our movement who are “blackpilled” or believe there is no hope and our race is doomed?”
Billy: “That is an excellent question. Speaking from the perspective of someone who has been involved in the White Nationalist movement for almost 35 years, obviously I've seen tens of thousands of people come and go, and hundreds of organizations rise and fall. The important thing is to remember that it is not the singer, but the song that matters. Individual leaders or activists may let you down, they may turn or they may retire due to normalcy bias or being doxed or finding another hobby. But the truth of our racial struggle requires no explanation, no qualification, and no defense. It is eternal and it is far more important than any one of us, or any individual, or any organization. Also, if a person has faith, there is the very real perspective that we are destined to win, it is preordained, and while we may lose some skirmishes along the way, ultimate victory will be God's, and ours as long as we remain on his side, as the first Fuhrer said. The important thing, if one is serious, and dedicated to our people, is to remain focused, and working. Aryans are not quitters. Regardless of the odds, regardless of the outcome. Of course it helps if one has a solid plan, and understands what will work and what is not going to work. That way you don't waste your time and energy and resources, nothing can be more blackpilling than that. It creates hopelessness and frustration. Instead, it is realistic and attainable and legal to focus on building a White ethnostate in a seedbed region such as Ozarkia, with a network of like-minded White Nationalists. that is the purpose of the Shieldwall Network. Suicide is for trannies. Don't be the guy who has to try to explain to your grandchildren one day about how you were involved in the cause that ultimately won but dropped out before Victory Day because you didn't have the stamina to stay on the team. Many times in the past our race has faced greater challenges than it faces today. At no time in the past has a higher percentage of our people been aware of who their enemy is. We will win. We are Aryans. If a person is too much of a pussy to grasp that and hold on to it then we don't need them.”
A powerful sentiment from Mr. Roper and something I think we should all take to heart. I hope you all enjoyed this interview comrades and I hope you learned something .